To All UNOFFICIAL HCR Discussion Room FB Group Members

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Please read here on this page to know some history and what has happened… AND, The REAL UNOFFICIAL Heather Cox Richardson Resource & Discussion Room Facebook Private Group is now live

From John Fridinger

Part One…

I have been the sole primary Administrator of the UNOFFICIAL Heather Cox Richardson Resource and Discussion Room Facebook private group since the previous sole primary Administrator, Rana Suzan, asked, vetted and then made me so on June 29, 2021… I had previously been an active regular member of our group for most of its existence…

On July 3, 2022, just a few days ago as I write, in what could reasonably be described as a hostile takeover, or coup, I was permanently removed and blocked from our group…

When it happened, and with everything changing so abruptly and visibly, my first sense was to let a few members know right away… I quickly put a message together and PMed moderators, certain members whom I’d given post pre-approval status to, and some others…

It turns out I didn’t scroll far enough in those initial somewhat frantic moments, and I put that message together based on some assumptions…

Instead of removing all my posts and comments, Bec Kemp has removed only my more recent posts and many of my more recent as well as more visible comments, along with some older “featured” posts of mine… In those first extended moments she also removed and blocked a number of prominent, active members, including deleting some of their posts and comments…

I have invested some considerable time and effort into making everything on this webpage as true and accurate as possible…

I have another FB identity that is a member of our group, so I am still able to observe what is going on…

Bec Kemp, whose personal FB account the Unofficial HCR group has been attached to since its inception, has assumed “command” of our group… You can click this link to go to her public FB page– https://www.facebook.com/bec.kemp/ – and get a flavor for her… Consider scrolling down a ways for a much fuller flavor…

It had and has been just about exactly a year since I took on full and singular responsibility for our group…

During that whole time, and also during the previous Administrators Rana’s and Mark’s tenure, which I understand began soon after our group’s inception approximately two and half years ago, Bec Kemp has NOT EVER put ANY time, thought, effort or energy, at all, into creating, developing, writing, moderating, contributing to, or maintaining our group, not ever, not any, and not even in the slightest… Not during Rana’s and Mark’s tenure, and not during mine…

During those first days when she vetted me and I became the administrator, Rana wrote very directly and clearly to me that our group was to be my sole responsibility, to do with as I wished. Rana also wrote that Bec Kemp had never been involved in the group in any way, was not interested in taking any active responsibility for the group at all, and that she (Rana) had tried messaging Bec several times, and was NEVER able to get a response…

I didn’t ask and was never told how it came to be that Rana and Mark became administrators of a group that was attached to Bec’s FB account… My assumption has been that there must have been a brief intermediary person or persons between the group’s inception and Rana and Mark becoming the administrators…

Just a few days ago, pretty soon after the coup, a respectable and long time active member of our group, from its earliest days, who was connected to Rana back then, wrote me: “Rana had been considering this possibility a couple of years ago. She wondered if Bec would ever assert and for a while there was even a plan to migrate to another group but that was never actioned.” 

Bec Kemp did occasionally post into the group what were for the most part rather simplistic, shallow and crude memes… I was finally able to nudge her out of that by both deleting some of them as well as including some “hints” in our group at large about the shallow and simplistic nature of most memes in general, and how memes very seldom inspired the kind of in-depth conversations our group was mostly interested in … I also PMed Bec about her memes, with as much diplomacy as I could muster…

Not to belabor the point but certainly to emphasize it. until the day of her hostile takeover of our group on Sunday, 7.3.22, Bec Kemp has never ever replied to any of my nor any of Rana’s PM messages to her… She has also never ever posted not even one actual written (I.E., her own words) thoughtful comment or post in our group, not even once in the entirety of this last year (nor did she ever directly or thoughtfully engage in the group during Rana’s and Mark’s tenure)…

Even though there has been zero real response or engagement, Bec Kemp has in fact been a reoccurring and intermittent difficulty for me for pretty much the whole of this last year… She has come in and disrupted things by almost willy nilly (it would seem) deleting comments and removing people… Which I would have to undo as much as possible, and then PM her why I did so…

That is, there was “zero response or engagement” UNTIL the very same day she posted a QR code post on her personal page (see a little further below)…

In that same extended moment of her QR code post in her own personal feed on June 28, Bec Kemp then also made a comment on a currently active and very well received post of mine in our group,, saying “THANK YOU for all you do! I am truly grateful!“… This comment became the very first time Bec had ever directly addressed me, in any format or venue whatsoever…

I have reproduced that post of mine, with all its comments intact, in a page on this site, HERE,… As well, here is a link to that actual post in the group, for as long as the post remains– https://www.facebook.com/groups/HCRresource/posts/1192442901613325/

Almost certainly because of how increasingly popular our group was becoming, including more and more ever deepening and better informed discussions and engagements, between more and more people in more and more ways, and maybe also because she believed most of the real work and creativity was complete, Bec Kemp suddenly decided that she “owned” our group, and therefore it “belonged” to her (her words).

Interestingly, a year prior Bec Kemp had a very real opportunity to become responsible for the group, when Rana posted her messages about moving on and that a new administrator was needed… Bec passed that opportunity totally by, without comment or response of any sort…

In those few days between her QR code post (see below) and the coup, Bec Kemp began deleting posts and comments she (presumably) didn’t like, as well as removing some active and very astute members who she apparently also didn’t like, from our group… Most of that I was able to, though temporarily it now turns out, undo…

Because she “can do whatever she wants with it…” That is the true gist of all Bec’s recent words to me, the central impetus behind most of her actions, and her primary justification for most of her behavior…

And, because our group is attached to her FB account, she did and does actually hold such a “power“… A power which seems now to have gone totally to her head, in some rather extreme as well as pretty skewed ways…

Ways more than a little similar to some recent and ever so much larger events in our nation and the world, is how it actually appears to me… In other words, the very same alienated and alienating beliefs that are now invading and destroying just about every facet, expression, level and dimension of our personal relationships, communities, social institutions and societies…

Bec Kemp has also begun to take credit for the many documents that were originally written by Rana, Mark and myself, particularly exampled by our group’s “ABOUT” post, by copying pretty much all the same text into “new” posts “by” her…

I had been following Bec Kemp‘s primary public facing FB page for a while, to track and maybe gauge some of her reactionary tendencies… The tip off came when she posted this on her public feed on Tuesday, 6.28.22, to all her friends and followers… In it she invites them to join “my” group that “I started” “two years ago” … “to help us organize and make a difference” and “now has nearly 38K members”… Paraphrasing, with all words in quotes being Bec’s… In case your device is unable to magnify this…

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Immediately after and coinciding with this post, and for the next few days, Bec Kemp began to approve select new member applications… Never ever before had she taken that labor intensive task on, not even once… She also made her first (and last) ever FB and/or group comment to me, which I mentioned up above, and then began as also mentioned above to delete posts and comments, and remove members from our group…

For as long as it remains, here is a direct link to this same QR code post on her page – https://www.facebook.com/bec.kemp/posts/pfbid0tN7pQZq6GQPMqaGNwkSRVZJf5xcCRtXNLK7TPK22hmor7smtLdEtNdg2qCiWj7DXl

SO…. When I saw this QR code post and the select new applicants she was now approving, I began to try to message Bec Kemp once again… Here is some of my attempts:

𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗡𝗢𝗧 “𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿” 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽… 𝗜𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗔𝗟𝗟 𝗼𝗳 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗺𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗶𝘁… 𝗝𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗔𝗟𝗟 𝗼𝗳 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗶𝘁, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗡𝗢𝗧 𝘁𝗼 𝗮 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗰𝘂𝗹𝗮𝗿 𝗽𝗼𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗻, 𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵, 𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗶𝗿𝗲, 𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽, 𝗳𝗮𝗶𝘁𝗵, 𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿, 𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗿, 𝗼𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗱𝘂𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻 𝗮 ‘𝘂𝗻𝗶𝗾𝘂𝗲’ 𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻…

𝗢𝘂𝗿 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮 “𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗴” 𝗱𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗮 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲… 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗳 𝘂𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝗧𝗢 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗲 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝘃𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗮 𝘀𝘂𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗲𝘅𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲, 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, 𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲, 𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿𝗴𝘆 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼…

𝗜𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗲 𝗜’𝗺 𝘁𝗿𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗻𝗼𝘄, 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽 𝗮𝗱𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 “𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘀” 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝘃𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘀𝗼𝗼𝗼𝗼 𝗺𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, 𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲, 𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿𝗴𝘆 (𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆) 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗲𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿, 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗲𝘃𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗲𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿, 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝘄𝗹𝘆 𝗲𝘃𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗻𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗮𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘆, 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗲𝘃𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗮𝗹 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽 𝗶𝘀 𝘀𝗲𝘁 𝘂𝗽, 𝗮 𝘄𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝘄𝗲𝗯𝘀𝗶𝘁𝗲 𝗵𝗼𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗱, 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗱 𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽, 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽𝘀’𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗱𝗼𝗰𝘂𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽 𝗺𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵 𝗿𝘂𝗹𝗲𝘀, 𝗴𝘂𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗼𝗼𝗼𝗼𝗼𝗼𝗼𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆, 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝘅, 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗱𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘄 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲, 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗹𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗜 𝘁𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿…

I also reminded Bec Kemp that I had been putting 60 to 80 hours a week into our group, every week, for a full year… It has been a true work of love for me…

From mine and the experience of others I believe we can say Rana and Mark must have put at least as much time, care and effort into the group during their year and a half prior…

Many other people over this last year and for the year and months prior, acting as administrators, moderators, pre-approved members and “gate keepers,” have put significant amounts of their own time, care and attention into developing, shaping and improving our group… Many if not most of them have now been removed and blocked from the group by Bec Kemp

And so then, on what became coup day, for the very first time ever, Bec Kemp finally replied to me on FB Messenger via some PMs, including a short message that basically brushed me off…

The brushoff message included this:
“𝐈𝐭 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐛𝐞 𝐚 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐡𝐮𝐭 𝐢𝐭 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧. 𝐈 𝐦𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤 𝐭𝐨 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐢𝐭. 𝐈 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐟𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐨𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐞 𝐦𝐞. 𝐒𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐬 𝐧𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐦𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈’𝐯𝐞 𝐚𝐥𝐰𝐚𝐲𝐬 𝐰𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐤𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐢𝐭.”

Some of my reply to that was:
𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗶𝘁𝘀 𝗺𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗶𝘁𝘀 𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗻𝘀… 𝗡𝗼 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗼𝘄𝗻𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲, 𝗻𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝘆 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗳𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗶𝗻… 𝗜𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁, 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗼𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗴𝗼𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗻𝗼𝘄…

𝗦𝗼 𝗽𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗱𝗼 𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗹𝗲𝘁 𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘀𝗲𝗲 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗲𝘅𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗲𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝗺𝗮𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗴𝗹𝘆 𝗴𝗼𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽… 𝗔𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿, 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗼𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗻 𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝘀𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗱𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗮 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘂𝗹𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗳 𝘂𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗳𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗼𝗻 𝗵𝗲𝗿… 𝗦𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗹𝘆 𝗸𝗻𝗼𝘄𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗹𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗔𝗟𝗟 𝗼𝗳 𝘂𝘀 𝘁𝗼𝗴𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿…

𝗧𝗼 𝘀𝗮𝘆 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗼𝘄𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀, 𝗶𝗻 𝗮 𝗰𝗲𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝘄𝗮𝘆, 𝗻𝗼 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻 𝗮 𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗶𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗲 𝗼𝘄𝗻𝘀 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝘆… 𝗔 𝗵𝘂𝗴𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀𝗲, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗻𝗼 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻t 𝗶𝗻 𝗶𝘁𝘀 𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗹𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗵𝗶𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹, 𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗹, 𝗼𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗰 𝗮𝘀𝘀𝘂𝗺𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀…

𝗦𝗼 𝗜 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗼 𝗵𝗼𝗽𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗛𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀, 𝗵𝗼𝘄𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗺𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝘁𝗼… 𝗜’𝗱 𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝗽𝘂𝘁, 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗹𝘂𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘆𝗼𝘂 “𝗼𝘄𝗻” 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗽 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗯𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝗯𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘂𝘁𝗲𝗹𝘆 𝘇𝗲𝗿𝗼, 𝗻𝗼𝗻𝗲, 𝘇𝗶𝗹𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼…

𝗬𝗼𝘂 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗼 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝗻 𝗶𝘁, 𝗼𝗿 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝘂𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗿𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗶𝘁 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲, 𝗼𝗿 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴, 𝗶𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗹𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝘀𝗵𝘂𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝘁 𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻…

Bec Kemp quickly PMed back and accused me of exactly what she is now doing, and then immediately blocked me on Messenger as well as from her own FB page… After which, instead of shutting the group down, she removed me as well as most of my more recent comments and posts from the group…

Bec Kemp is now attempting to make what has always been a group that belongs to its members, because in her mind it “really” belongs to her, into her own self image… In other words, “her” group…

One of the things I suggested to Bec in our little back and forth last Sunday, coup day, 7.3.22, was that, instead of destroying the group, by either shutting it down or taking over something she did not understand, and really was not even able to recognize in terms of what the group was actually becoming, and even though I could not do it, she herself could remove herself as a group administrator… And that, because of the way FB groups work, the group would then become free floating, never again attached to anyone’s account, all the while that it was being administrated by the group’s remaining administrators…

Bec Kemp could actually still do this, by removing blocks, accepting people back, inviting at least one of us who were so before to be an administrator, and then decisively removing herself as administrator… I know of course this is extremely unlikely, to say the least, but I do believe it needs to be stated here, directly and clearly

In regards to making things into our “own” images, mentioned above… I had, by the time of this takeover, established approximately twenty members who were pre-approved for their posts… I also had (still have) a continually growing list of about twenty additional members who I was planning to bring into pre-approved status, slowly, one at a time…

At least some of the actual and potential pre-approved, and probably all of them, have views upon our world that are significantly different from some of my own various views… Different life experiences naturally make for different views upon life… All the while that I know in my own heart it is not our experiences that are the problem, but what we make of them, or not….

My impetus for removing myself from between certain select members and the group as a whole (a reason I’ve shared in one way or another with a number of people, including some of the pre-approved), was (and is) exactly that I very much did (and do) NOT want the group to be in “my” image…

And even more deliberately and importantly, I did and do not want the group to be centered around me…

Instead I wanted us to continue to grow in our ability to discover what we were all about, together, or might we say discover OUR image, together, so to speak…

My personal goal in all this was always and very simply, to just be another part of that discovery process with a group of people who might care about the world around us in some similar ways… To participate, in other words, by bringing my own unique ways, capabilities and possibilities into the play, and in doing so become a contributing part of a larger collective…

In a certain very real sense, that has been my goal my whole life… I actually think it is every person’s goal who is able to look deeply enough into their own hearts…

In other words our group was for me about seeking and finding a larger and larger terrain that I believe, for a long time now, is always and already ours… Or we could perhaps say, a place or terrain already here, that is about ALL of us, together…

🙏🏽🌻🌈

Part Two…

And in closing…

I doubt Bec Kemp is emotionally, psychologically or intellectually capable of reading much if any of what’s on this page.  Though for her sake I hope I’m wrong…  If she were able to, and more importantly able to let some of it in, she might actually have a chance at healing some things…  But, and whatever the case may be, all of that is her journey… 

Just like the writings on this page, and its design, and of course my adventures with our group over this last year, including the building and hosting of this website in support our group’s possibilities, have now become aspects of my own journey…

This kind of healing that I’m pointing to for Bec is one that our whole world really needs now… And yet, for our relationships snd our communities, and most especially for our world as a whole to benefit from some similar healings, it will be necessary that a threshold number of us be able and more importantly actually begin, in larger and larger ways, to look hard at ourselves, first and foremost… And then additionally, in fullest concert with that, to begin to look at and be seen by each other… 

In other words, we must be willing to see and be seen, both, in these sorts of ways I have always also been trying to point and nudge towards in our Unofficial HCR Discussion group, for a whole year now…

All the while that we must also become able to let our inward lookings lead our collective and engaged outward lookings… The miracle we will discover, if we keep looking in these ways without ever giving up, so that we eventually become both willing and able to look deeply enough, is that our hearts are already connected… We just forgot… 

Openly, consciously, conversationally, together…  

Otherwise we humans, along with a huge bunch of other life forms on our planet, are pretty much done for…  Fact. 

No one can really know this next is actually true unless they could somehow climb into my skin, so to speak, but I am always, both now and for most of my life, looking both inwardly and outwardly in these ways…  In concert… 

Our group became what it has become (and was continuing to become more and more) over this last year because I was free to follow my instincts, intuition and inspiration… AKA my heart…  Which I did…

In these regards I am trying to describe now, my intellect just sort of follows along like a good, and, finally these days, very willing servant… And just like any good servant, by always being ready to assist my heart, when and as needed… And to mostly stay out of the way otherwise…  It hasn’t always been like this, but it is now… And now that it is, it is more and more…

So, I jumped into the group feet first, with all I’m trying to point to here pretty much totally wide open and, as is said, willing, just one year ago… 

I realized pretty soon that if Bec Kemp ever became actively dominant in the group, exercising the leverage of her unique position, all the while holding the erratic, bizarre, superficial, narrow, alienated and extremely reactionary views she pretty clearly believes is “who” she is, the group’s huge potentials and possibilities that I was so clearly seeing would be destroyed…

Bec Kemp‘s illformed, reactionary and in many ways violence-prone fanaticism was on vivid and rather childish display via the kinds of memes she was frequently posting in her own personal page… And just as clearly, there was pretty much a total absence of any real thoughtful awareness in the rather obvious, shallow and extremely one-dimensional cliches and “ideas” her memes were representing, and which she clearly held as being about herself and/or the world she believed she saw around her…

Bec Kemp clearly “thought” and “thinks” in memes, cliches, platitudes, billboards, one-liners, slogans, etc… Which is to say that, for the most part, she has no ability for real and considered thinking, or might we say no questioned and self examined sensitivities and sensibilities of her own to offer…

And so, of course, in any group Bec Kemp dominated she would be extremely prone to promote a “world” that “thinks” and “considers” similarly… A world absent of any real awareness or consideration for anything beyond its own extremely narrow limits and prejudices, in other words…

I knew that, with the leverage Bec Kemp held over the group, if she decided it was hers to do with as she pleased it would quickly become just another absurd Facebook wasteland, and I would no longer be free to let the huge experiences my long and uniquely varied life has gifted me with inform and detail what my instincts, intuition and inspiration were wanting to bring into the group…

For a whole year, until this last week or so, and of course because Bec was pretty much missing in action when it came to the group, I was somehow able to keep her extremist foolishness at bay…

And so with a lot of plain old faith and surrender, and always moment to moment, I was able to serve and amplify the real possibilities I actually saw in what was already an amazing gathering of people right from the beginning of my tenure…  It was a group that Rana and Mark, and I suspect some notable, helpful others, had clearly worked very hard to shape and bring together around Heather’s writings and teachings…  

Rana asked for someone to become our group’s new administrator, and that someone somehow miraculously became me…  Go figure…

Bec Kemp is pretty much totally lost in illformed and reactionary beliefs centered around what she thinks are “liberal” and/or “progressive” versions of our collective societal insanities…  Not really much different from a whole lot of people these days, lost in so many diverse and divergent versions of our collective twenty-first century zeitgeist of societal conflicts, oppositional ideologies, and just plain craziness…  The “left,” in this insane left-right, black-white, mine-yours, us-them zero sum illusion called by some of the more sane among us the duality, which far, far too many people believe is real, has its own flavors and brands of insanity… 

Irregardless of which side of the so-called dialectic one is on, as long as the underlying meta-belief continues to be about separation, the insanities will only get worse and worse…   And in these what are now some late and likely final stages of the overarching collective insanity, this belief that we are or could ever really be separate, and which seems hellbent upon destroying both itself and the world it is part of, many of the various so-called “left’ and “right” insanities are actually now starting to merge together… 

And of course along with and in the midst of that, a lot of competing as well as allied vested interests, corporations and governments, both foreign and domestic, via local and national media, local and national governmental entities, banking and financial circles, and the internet, are manipulating and exacerbating these mergings as well as all of the divisiveness and divisions…

There is a natural and sane version of this dialectical metaphor as well, of course…  But only as its various aspects begin to realize (make real) that they were always about being a part of something larger…  Never ever about just themselves– neither alone, nor in competition with each other…

There will always be, no matter how vast we may imagine ourselves, something larger and deeper, which we are forever being invited back to…  The real path of return in this sense starts with conscious participation in at least one aspect of what is also appearing as all these small and large interwoven and interdependent realms…

For me it is simple…  Conservatives conserve and progressives progress… Working together they are two sides of the same coin…  The whole currency is what we humans have forgotten…  Forgotten along with the fact that “currency” was never meant to be an ends in and of itself, but instead is a means (amongst many other means) for some higher, deeper and more engaged, interconnected ways, as well as levels, of community intercourse and interaction…

And so conservatives cling to a past that no longer exists except in their memories and fears, and progressives run towards a future that will never exist except in their fantasies and fears…  Always and continually reacting to and imagining themselves “against” each other…

Liberals and conservatives, in this insane upside down world made of fear, are actually using each other to “prove” that they “exist” as “separate” entities…  Which is the most obscured and “hidden” purpose of ALL conflict, actually… As if separation is safety…

When the truth is just the opposite… Nothing can really be separate, and therefore there is really nothing to fear.. Except fear itself… When we fully realize this, fear simply disappears… It becomes what it always was, a mirage, illusion, nothing

A collective insanity that has become layered back and forth upon itself, over and over and over now, for decades, centuries, millenniums…  All around the world…  “Them,” and “us”…

Once this purpose of conflict is fully seen for the first time, it will never again be able to fully hide from us…

So for me this group was an opportunity for something different from all the insanity…  A place where I might actually be able to do some of what most of my life has always been about, but now just maaaybe with a few others…  More and more…  Slowly… No hurry… Little nudges, possibilities, glimpses, and suggestions, here and there… With this sort of movement (or evolution) I am suggesting being itself our real and actual destination

All the while supporting and serving what is also and always wanting to happen…  Via instincts, intuition and inspiration, collectively known as our hearts…

There is not one of us who really wants this insanity, in our very heart of hearts, and I knew that if we could just begin to really see it together, see that none of us really wants this, we might actually also begin to be able to see our way through and out of it, together…  

Together being the important part… We humans created this mess together, and so it is we humans who must now begin to see our way out of it together… 

And of course starting small…  Like in this group…  And yet 38K select members in a private group was enough of us for it to have the energy, the quickening possibilities… So to speak… And, being from all over the country and even some other countries, as well as from various social groupings and economic levels, and etc. as we were, there was also at least some beginning possibilities of what I consider to be the necessary diversity…

The natural world is first and foremost infinitely diverse, as well as being wild and free… And so must we humans also become, infinitely diverse (once again)… Not to mention wild and free… But consciously and inter-connectively this time… 😊

That was my hope, and that was what I saw myself jumping, feet first, into the possibilities of…  None of us are going to be here in form forever, and none of us are going to get “out” of here with our forms intact… 

But while we are still here, what else could we possibly be doing together, that is better, more beautiful, or more important than this…?

I knew that if Bec came into the middle of it, with the “power” and leverage she believes she somehow “deserves,” dragging along with her some rather hard-held illusions of separation and otherness, she would destroy what I saw as an extremely rare and beautiful thing, or opportunity, that was truly and actually trying to happen… 

Really and truly it was like a quickening, that seemed to actually want to keep happening in the group, more and more and more…  Scores, and scores, and just ever increasing scores, of beautiful and deeply caring people, all interacting and interconnecting through a collective multitude of extremely intelligent, aware, informed and considerate understandings, heart felt visions, and concerns…   

🙏🏽🌻🌈 


ALL comments are welcome…

As well, if you are interested in hearing about a possible new group, where we can carry on in some of the ways we did before Bec Kemp’s hostile takeover, you may leave a comment here…

Knowing of your interest will help, in regards to the possibilities of a new group happening…

You may also indicate interest in a new group by way of a FB PM to our group’s previous Admin, myself, John Fridinger…

If you believe any of this matters, please consider passing the link to this page onward to any and everyone who might also think there is something here that matters...

If you know a way to get the link to this page to Professor Heather Cox Richardson, in the belief she might appreciate knowing about what has occurred, please consider doing so…

And for anyone who is Twitter savvy, and believes all this matters, consider how this page might be shared on Twitter, in a way that could perhaps bring it to Heather’s attention…


69 comments

  1. Thank you. Apparently I’ve been removed from the original group which I joined shortly after it started. I was contacted by another member and given this “address”. I very much enjoyed the intelligent conversations held in that group over the past few years.

  2. I came back from Oregon Country Fair and this HCR group was gone. I had no idea we had a hidden narcissist underneath it all. Is there another FB group now? I went to all the links here and FB has removed all those pages.

    1. Hi Sienna – most likely you have been blocked from the page by the new administrator. There doesn’t seem to be a logical or methodical approach, but more and more people are being dropped off involuntarily.

      We are working on a new Unofficial platform/page and will be in touch with you when that occurs. If you know of someone else who would want to be informed when it is ready, please direct them here and ask them to leave a comment so we’ll know to contact them.

      Thanks

  3. Thank you, John, and the former administrators Rana and Mark for all of your thoughtful moderation and devotion to creating a “safe space” for a more challenging and intellect l discourse and exploration of events in history and politics. This group has provided me with both hope and vital dialogue that has helped me to shape my worldview in a more grounded and just manner.

    I would like to follow up with the “new” group, and hope it’s easy to find (I’m not confident in my computer skills).

    Also, I can’t help but wonder if what set Kemp off to actually act was the activist experiment proposed by HCR to link up and share and like one another’s posts in order to effect the algorithms? If so, that would indicate that the Experiment is working, in some sense at least. That makes me happy. ( while also frustrated that y’all have to deal with their sabotage).

    Keep true to your vision, John; you expressed some of my own thoughts and foundational beliefs in a way I myself have been struggling to articulate so succinctly. For that alone I owe you (and the former admins who acted in a similar vein) a debt of gratitude.

    Laura

    1. Hey Laura, thanks for your comment. We’re working behind the scenes to put together a new group, continue sharing news articles, and discussion. Stay tuned for updates. We’ll make it as user-friendly as we can.

  4. Anita told me about this and still wrapping head around it. but, right: a coup is a coup, with or w/o bearspray and flagpoles. our few interactions have been thought-provoking and literate–more than i could hope for, atchully. working on “The Experiment” (with anita and troy) i had hoped to turn our group into a vehicle that would, in HCR’s view, change the conversation. so, yeah, i’m still up for the conversation, and even “The Experiment”, if that happens.

  5. John – thanks for the work. Count me in on the new page when it is ready. Will be happy to post on the high jacked page to bring others over when the new unofficial page is active. Cliff

    1. Thank you for your willingness to help, Cliff. One by one, we are all being deleted and unceremoniously blocked. We’ll be happy to have you with us on our new platform.

  6. John, first of all, thank you for your service to this group. I confess I currently haven’t the time/intellectual energy to entirely digest all of this, but appreciate here what I have found typical of you in your time as moderator: a balanced, concerned desire to share information on confusing & difficult situations.

    Frankly, in this moment, I’m not sure what to make of any of it. I haven’t actually been to the group, nor had it pop up in my feed since the date of this unexpected change. I have NO energy to engage personalities over principles. While I’ll give this Bec a once-over for myself, you have never seemed to me even CLOSE to prone to character assassination….so I’ve little doubt I’ll notice some of the changes.

    Again, gratitude for your service. No good deed goes unpunished, yes? ; ) It takes a lot to moderate any group of this size, even without troubling times and politics being involved. Namaste. I will be looking for the new group.

    1. Donna, thank you for the appreciation of the group, and what John brings to it, which is so much.
      As someone who is also challenged by tiredness (I call it exhaustion) I want to express my empathy and appreciation for your efforts to take care for your body’s energy. Especially during difficult times it’s effort we all benefit from. 🧘‍♂️🌈

    2. Donna, I saw your comment on Heather Cox Richardson public page referencing this “transition” that’s happening. Thanks for that. Perhaps a Post of that comment would be helpful? Or maybe as a comment in more places in the group?
      🌈🧘🏼‍♀️

  7. Thanks for all you have done. I am certainly interested in the new group. I have learned so much from the folks I have friended over the last 4-5 months.

    1. New group, aka private Facebook group… 😊 This is a site… 😊😊 And I believe it is coming, the group… 😎 Stay tuned…🌈 And by the way, thanks for ALL your hard work in the “old” group… And hanging in here now with all that is happening… 🌻💕

  8. Please setup a new group… I’ll be there!
    Passing the link on….
    How about “The REAL H.C.R. discussion group”?

  9. HI John,
    You had done such a good job moderating and sorry that this happened. I certainly would love to be included in a revised edition of the group. Thanks much!

  10. I have appreciated your thoughtful curation of the group from the first time I posted and my post was rejected! Can’t imagine the group without your care and attention. I will absolutely follow to another group. I have several friends who are members also, and I will contact them by PM to advise them of the situation. Keep me posted!

  11. This is awful to read! How can a member override the admins of a longstanding group and take it over? What does Facebook have to say about this, if anything? I’d be delighted to join a new group, so please send me an invite should one be launched. Thank you so much for all you’ve done!

    1. Ellen, actually, as the originator of the group she has that authority. Unfortunately, fb isn’t in a position to help.
      Thank you for your comment.

  12. She just made the group unsearchable/findable on Facebook. That seems…ominous.

    I will miss your candor. May not stick around for much longer there. These things can go really bad really fast.

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻 Before you leave the group if you decide to, PLEASE spread the word anyway you can, with a link to this page…? Especially by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And them maybe “go” the way Anita O Pinion did, by picking your time, then adding a comment with your thought(s) on what has happened, and again MOST ESPECIALLY a link to this page…??? And do that comment only on posts posted before June 28, when Bec first invited all her own friends to join, so that your comments might not be noticed for just a little while longer than otherwise…?? However it feels right to you…! 🌻🙏🏽💕

  13. I am 100% behind you! I have no direct connection with HCR, but I think I know who to ask, unless s/o else comes forward. I”m hoping maybe upon seeing some of Bec’s posts HCR *might* feel inclined to prevail upon her to just let it go.

    In the mean time, are you thinking about ways to save at least some of what has been generated by the group (posts/files/membership lists etc.)

    I have to say, I’ve gotten much more out of the group since you took over….broader participation, posts more anchored in our current situation. Much more relevant. I am NOT interested in Bec’s vision at all. We see enough of that elsewhere.

    How many people have you notified so far? Wish there were someway the membership could pressure her…but she might shut the whole thing down. Good grief. As if we weren’t all dealing with enough drama already!

    1. In any way possible, in multiple ways, however it might occur to you and others, please DO see if you can get all this, Anita’s message, and especially I believe this page link, to Heather, and see if she might prevail upon Bec to let it go, unblock me, accept my “new member” request, invite me to be an Admin, and then when I am in, remove herself as Admin… OR do similar with Anita O Pinion… The group would then be free floating on FB… I.E., free to find its own way collectively, all its previous moderators back and on the job……

      Heather is hard to reach, so EVERY effort to reach her matters…

      Without going into detail, that is actually also the only way the group’s deep and rich legacy can be saved… Otherwise it will be a whole new start in a whole new group, with a whole lot less of us at the biginning and for a long time probably, to continue these explorations into who we really are, and who we really want to BE, together…

      And yes, we are notifying everybody we can in every way we can, and asking EVERY one we notify to do the same… It won’t be very long before Bec discovers what we are doing… The least she will do is remove Anita, And Goddess knows what else she may do…

      In the meantime we all need to get in there and PM EVERYBODY we can about what is happening, and including a link to this page…

      Here next is my copy/paste to these comments that you’ve probably seen, but will include again anyway… And THANK YOU THANK YOU for this reply… It heartens me, and us… 🙏🏽🌻💕

      Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

      1. Ok If I do find a way to reach her, I”ll send her the link/message ….do you want me to send her a copy of this message too or what??

        One problem with PM’ing ‘folks we don’t know…is we don’t know who is connected to Bec! IDK! It gets complicated!

        1. Put together as much of this as you can, and especially including a link to this page, and any of my words or Anita’s and anything else that might help Heather quickly come up to speed on what is happening here, the sooner the better… The longer it drags on the more damage Bec will do, all the while hoping she doesn’t delete the group completely before Heather or other wisdom can prevail……

        1. Thank so much you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and EVERY one else… However it feels right to you…! 🌻🙏🏽💕

  14. John, you already know how I feel. Thank you for the whole year plus this writing. Count me in for the new group.

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

  15. Wow, I’m so sorry what you have been through and thank you for all your efforts. I definitely will follow the group to its new home as I have come to rely on it so much for informed commentary and community.

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

      1. Please keep me in the new group loop. Before I blocked Bec, I’ve looked at some of the comments she made on a few of the more recent posts, demanding people edit their words to comply with what she wanted it to say, or else… I was pretty much speechless and that put the nail in the coffin for me that I was done there.

        1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

  16. john… I enjoyed your admin of this site very much… and the posts of Opinion also… HCR must know about this now and all she would have to do is say in her letter that the change in Admin no longer reflects the goals of a group using her name -whether officially of unofficially – and perhaps request they no longer use her name in the title.
    If HCR doesn’t want to get involved… start another group “The REAL…” or whatever..
    all the members listen, read HCR almost daily… we’d all jump to a new group pretty quick if HCR suggested we do that. Hard to leave all the hard work and good info behind… but there’s so much going on… these are such hot times.. and honest, intelligent moderation makes a world of difference.
    I’ll stay in the group and be a thorn in this new lady’s side till she kicks me out… and without your and your best writers gone, I won’t miss it
    Folks who appreciated your work, and I’m definitely one of them, will happily follow you to a new group.
    I’ll leave you with this…. I was in a group where the admin just disappeared… we tried to keep it going but the spam and unmoderated nonsense was too much so we started a new one.
    best
    bennett

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

      1. haha..I would pm other members but after pasting opinion’s piece around the group I figured i’d better leave the group before the new chief would turn me into FB and they put me in FB Jail.. so how can I find out if y’all are starting a new group- I miss it already…

        1. Ahhhhaa… I remember seeing your repeats of Anita’s comment(s)…!! For as long as they lasted… 😊 Totally cool beans… And we will for sure be letting everybody commenting here know… Do stay tuned…😊
          🙏🏽🌻🌈

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

  17. Wow! So sorry you have been treated this way. I would love to join the new group. Thank you for the work you and Anita have put into the group. Hope to hear soon.

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

    2. Hi John, and here I was thinking this kind of thing only happened to me. 🤨🤪
      You have been a great moderator, so by all means please start a new group and add my name. I enjoy the conversation and right now we all need to talk. 🇺🇸💙

      1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

  18. Hi John…I would like to be part of the new site. If you start one, I’m sure most of us will come over. This group is good with sharing the right info. Sorry to hear about the hostile takeover, ‘coup’ seems to be the word and action of the year…

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

    1. Thank you for this…! 🙏🏽🌻🌈 Please do spread the word anyway you can…? Perhaps even by PMing other people who are in the group, perhaps folks you’ve maybe noticed and you’d like to hear more from in a new group…? And of course any and every one else… However it feels right to you… 🌻🙏🏽💕

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